Carl returns to Grace Church after serving on staff from 1990-1993. From 1994 to 2014, he pastored two churches in the Los Angeles area. He has a passion for foreign missions and travels internationally each year supporting leaders and volunteers in various countries. Carl serves on several Missions Boards. He is certified with the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors (ACBC) and a board member of Biblical Counseling and Discipleship Association of Southern California (BCDASoCal). Carl is a graduate of The University of Cincinnati and The Master's Seminary (M.Div., Th.M., D.Min.). Carl leads Grace Advance, which provides pastoral leadership for developing churches. He is the Dean of Students, Associate Professor of Pastoral Ministries, and Director of Placement at The Master's Seminary. He pastors the Doulos fellowship group. He and his wife, Joanna, have five children.